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Sync does not work

diggerty
Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:47:46 GMT

I have followed the instructions: created a new Scrivener project, closed it, selected it from the Aeon menu. It opened correctly, but nothing then happens when I click on the sync button. I can drag individual events over, but that's it. Nothing else happens at all. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I'd like it to work, but... it ain't!

aeonjess
Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:23:48 GMT

Hi, When you drag individual events over, are new events being created on the timeline? If they are, then next to the event in the binder there should appear an orange exclamation mark symbol. This indicates that a document or event has been changed. Then if you click the sync button, it should change to a green tick symbol, indicating the document is now synced with an event in the timeline. Is there any part of the above that is failing for you? When syncing with Scrivener, Aeon Timeline does not automatically create events for you - you have to manually add them by dragging to the timeline, or selecting create event when you right-click the document in the binder. You can also sync each document to events already existing by selecting Link to Event when right-clicking the document in the binder. Please let us know if you still are having problems with syncing and need some more clarification Regards, Jess

exkitteh
Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:39:38 GMT

If possible I would like some clarification on this too. So, does that also mean child events of a linked event wont be automatically added? And you have to manually add them all? e.g. An event, "Book One" is linked to a folder in Scriv. But then you start adding child events under "Book One" in AT. Say, Chapters 1-10. Do each of those new child events have to be manually added? If so, that is pretty limiting. Because then "Book One" and it's entire contents is not really linked or updated at all. It seems fine if you have a completed timeline and you just drag it all over. But if you have a working document, it's going to be a time sink adding new events each time to the Scrivener bar. Especially when there are a lot that may be scattered around the entire event's timeline. Surely it should be able to pull the information and add it, maybe not sync it straight away but have it listed with an icon to indicate you need to "approve" the addition? Or at least there should be a way to select all of the child events and drag them across and for it to add the ones th at haven't already been added and arent present in the synced list. Of course if you try this now, there's just a red X. So, yeah, if you have a long list of events, and forget which particular ones need to be added to make it so the main folder "Book One" is actually up to date, then you have to go hunting and crosscheck each child event before dragging it across. Definitely room improvement and I hope this feedback helps.

aeonjess
Mon, 23 Jan 2017 00:43:03 GMT

Hi, Thanks for the feedback on this issue. Yes, at the moment it does mean that each child event has to be manually added. I understand that you are finding one of the main problems is the ability to quickly tell which events are not synced yet, and to quickly add them to the binder?Our next update will include a new and improved Scrivener Syncing interface which should make the ability to find unsynced events and sync them alot quicker than the current version. Jess

xenonexia
Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:51:45 GMT

That's pretty much the same thing with everything that has a child of any kind, as far as I can see. If one writes a novel, or series of novels, spanning both castler "chamber intrigue" and a whole big wide World out there - or if one has a lot of characters, grouped by groups, families, creeds, nations or whatever - then one is kind of limited by not being able to have them sync. Neither from Scrivener to Aeon Timline, or vice versa. As far as I can see. Is there a way at all to add possibility of syncing children and children of children? It makes stuff very difficult, cumbersome and slow if this won't work. And it will mean a heck of a lot of work for any writer, which is something we avoid to be able to focus on the writing process instead of having to put in part time for administrative work. So I'm just hoping and begging and trying to suck up a whole lot to have that happen. Full sync would be awesome. Especially as I can't find a way to mark a child (i.e. the person A added in group M subroup ZD in Scrivener Binder (which does transfer allright to Aeon, thou gh), and add as character in Aeon, at all right now. I can see the post from Scrivener Binder in Aeon, but it is just sitting there, and I can't add the character in, and nor will it sync as a person. This seems to be true about places, and a lot of other entities, so I'm feeling like my wings have been clipped by that for now. Even though I'll keep using the software anyways, as it is wonderful in so many ways beyond that.

xenonexia
Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:56:29 GMT

Just to be clear. The reason I see this as problematic is, writing a series of several novels, a job that has been going on for quite a while and is far on the way, with stories stretching over several dozens of nations, with cities, villages, farms, palaces and so on, and with a total number of characters (not all are important characters for the plot at all, but still - quite the lot), exceeding several hundred... that's some job to add all those in manually. Quite daunting, to say the least. So that is why I'm sort of desperate about getting that feature sorted.

razyr
Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:00:55 GMT

Heya, Xeno. A few of us have been trying to put ideas together in once place as to how entity synchronisation (people, places, arcs or whatever) should be implemented in AT2. You might want to weigh in on [this discussion](https://www.aeontimeline.com/forum/channel/#!/wish-list:smarter-entity-synchronizat) and let your ideas be known there. How much information do you really need to carry over from Scrivener to the timeline and how do you think sync should work?

xenonexia
Sun, 30 Jul 2017 18:38:45 GMT

Thanks! Will have a look. =)