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Sync with multiple Scrivener projects?

inpariswithyou
Sat, 04 Mar 2017 08:20:46 GMT

I am writing a series -- I've completed the first book and am working on the second. I'd like to use the same Aeon Timeline for the whole series, but different Scrivener projects for each book. Can I sync a single timeline to multiple projects? Or should I re-think using separate Scrivener projects?

inpariswithyou
Sat, 04 Mar 2017 08:21:25 GMT

I should mention I'm using the newest Windows versions of both products!

supportaeon
Sun, 05 Mar 2017 07:25:37 GMT

Hello! Regrettably, you cannot sync multiple projects at a time, as another user reported below, syncing Aeon Timeline to a different project will delete the currently synced project. The Scrivener sync is a relatively new feature and we will improve it in our future update. Please stay tuned, the next beta release will bring the extended support of syncing and you'll be able to un-sync AT2 from a project and sync it with another one. Eugene, Aeon Timeline Support

aeonjess
Mon, 06 Mar 2017 00:56:34 GMT

Hi, The above message is a error. You can sync multiple Scrivener projects to one Aeon Timeline file. You cannot have more than one binder open at the one time - eg. when you are performing syncing actions you can't do it with more than one file, but you can have multiple Scrivener projects that sync to the one file and open them up one and a time to perform the syncing actions. Sorry for the confusion. Jess

greyt
Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:55:42 GMT

exactly my question here august 4. I have done a sync between scrivener and aeon and it works. it consist of input from second half of 2017. rather than creating new project I would like to be able to sync to the first part of 2017. I am unsure what will happen to the second part when/if I sync to first part... and vice versa. My goal is to be able to see in Aeon the (possible) relationships across the whole year. from Jeffs reply I consider it safe... but I don't want to be sorry :-)

aeonjess
Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:16:15 GMT

Hi, If your two Scrivener projects are syncing to different events, then everything should be fine. When you sync to the first part of 2017 those events will be affected, and then when you sync to the second project, only those events will be affected and the rest will stay the way you left them. You can then re-sync to the first project again and it resume from the state you left it in. If you are syncing one event to two projects, this will still work, you will just have to be mindful that when changing the data of that event it will change the data in both of your projects. Jess

greyt
Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:04:27 GMT

Great for me, then I can go ahead, there are no conflicts of events, it will however gain me flexibility since the spring project is some 2 GB and whenever quitting that heap takes quite some time for the xyz.bak.zip to be created. that was one of the reasons I split it up.

greyt
Thu, 16 Aug 2018 08:41:22 GMT

I have the same 'need' to sync more than one scrivener project to one Aeon timeline. Is there a way, inside Aeon, to see which project an event belongs to? I have looked in the manual, but do not find the list of the projects synced, as an item in the Sync menu drop down. I am using date-based inputs, and just want to know if 'same' input exist in both scrivener project, will they both be synced? (there would be a difference in custom meta data) Palle

aeonjess
Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:43:51 GMT

Hi, You can see what projects an event is synced to by clicking the Linked tab in the inspector, and looking under the heading "Sync" Under the sync menu, the option "Manage Projects" will show all the projects that the entire timeline is synced to. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the last question, but an event is able to be synced to two documents, with eventually the data syncing between the two of them. Although I'm not exactly sure what you mean about having a difference in custom metadata?) Jess

greyt
Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:47:47 GMT

AHaaaaa... had forgotten there was an inspector :-) thank you for reminding me... very useful

greyt
Sun, 19 Aug 2018 09:55:10 GMT

I have just discovered that syncing two scrivener project into one common Aeon timeline does not work on 're-syncing' back to Scrivener. this is confusing. I have made a test setup to investigate. two scrivener files with no common inputs. the first sync into new fresh aeon is ok, syncing second scrivener file seems ok too, but I am confused about the meaning of the TAB called "Events" which seems to hold all files from first sync!!! SO when you have 2 Scrivener projects you sync, how should one consider the content / meaning of "Binder", "Warnings" and "Events"??? On a test I realised that heeding the "Warning" I got doubled items on the time line. AND making changes in timeline, say connecting an item to an ARC this change will never be synced back to scrivener. AND using Inspector it seems that all files in "Event" are not linked anymore???? This happens, whether I sync to Scrivener 1 or Scrivener 2 project. Using scrivener + Aeon in 1 on 1 is fine and wor ks perfect, but 2 on 1 does NOT. I use these 4 metadafieldsfrom scrivener: Start , Participant, Observer, Event arc. hope you can help out on this Kind regards Palle

aeonjess
Mon, 20 Aug 2018 01:10:23 GMT

Hi Palle, When you are syncing one timeline to multiple Scrivener projects, the contents of the binder (eg "Binder", "Warnings" and "Events") only shows the syncing information about the current Scrivener project you are syncing to - the one that you chose from the Sync menu. It doesn't show the information for what you have synced to in other projects, you would have to choose the sync to them to see that information in the binder. So for example, in the Tab called "Events", you say that it seems to hold all files from the first sync. I assume this is because you are seeing all your events that you synced to the first project in the "Unlinked events" header (let me know if I am incorrect in this assumption). This is because in the second project, you haven't linked them to anything - they are only linked to documents in the first project. This is the same for the Warnings tab. When you sync to the second project for the first time, it will say that all the documents are unlinked, because that is true for the second project. If the events already exist on the timeline d ue to being synced from the first project, then you have choose to link it to the document in the second project manually (right click the document and choose link to event). If you are having problems with changes in timeline not being synced back correctly, then the first thing to check would be that the event is synced correctly - it should have a green tick next to it in the binder. You also need to check that the property is being synced. Open up the Project Sync Settings via the cog wheel on the binder, and check that next to Arc the dropdown has the corresponding Scrivener value chosen (in your case it looks like it should be Event arc). Let us know if you need more help with this. If you are still having problems getting the information to sync correctly, if you email us your timeline file and Scrivener projects to support@aeontimeline.com, then this can help us look at what the issue is. Jess

greyt
Mon, 20 Aug 2018 09:45:15 GMT

Hi Jess This is not a big problem, I have for now dropped the two-to-one version, but I guess something is slightly off, at least compared to my understanding of things. I have made a somewhat smaller test set, two scrivener files and one Aeon. ' when I sync #1 all links tells me they are linked to #1. then I sync #2... and now ALL entries tells me the are synced to #2 !!! I can modify the size of project files and send to you if you will provide me with a link for that, then we "see the same" Palle

greyt
Mon, 20 Aug 2018 12:42:25 GMT

Hmm, I just updated to 2.3.10, maybe a coincidence but the sync settings does not work when I start a new match to a Scrivener project. The Start will show me available custom meta data but not anymore for participant observer or arc??? I attach som screenshots [KuhVTs7XRqiWsPgWeNgTVw](//muut.com/u/aeontimeline/s3/:aeontimeline:TmWc:kuhvts7xrqiwspgwengtvw.jpg.jpg) [2qhf7VuKSUaaB7ksxx554A](//muut.com/u/aeontimeline/s3/:aeontimeline:T8Vt:2qhf7vuksuaab7ksxx554a.jpg.jpg) [OLLqw7ixSt2rPyHBuwPCSA](//muut.com/u/aeontimeline/s3/:aeontimeline:BuIs:ollqw7ixst2rpyhbuwpcsa.jpg.jpg) [2ECZ6Xx6RrOecrIuSKlksQ](//muut.com/u/aeontimeline/s3/:aeontimeline:FtBP:2ecz6xx6rroecriusklksq.jpg.jpg) one for each meta I am using and which have worked before

aeonjess
Wed, 22 Aug 2018 04:03:27 GMT

Hi Palle, In regards to the custom metadata options not showing for Participant and Observer, are you able to check that in Scrivener, the options you want to sync have the "Wrap text" option enabled? This sets the custom metadata to be able to be multi-line in Scrivener, and roles which can have more than one value (such as participant and observer) can only sync to metadata with this enabled. I'm not sure why this would have suddenly changed on you with the most recent update though, as this has always been true. Yes it would be helpful if you could send the files, are you able to email them to support@aeontimeline.com, or are they too big for that? Jess

greyt
Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:59:27 GMT

Ahaaa, yes you are right" I used My special template for the new testfile, but did not think about the Wrap feature. after I turned that on it works in the testfile. And the sync works too. It is logical that you can only sync back to the ONE file you are in sync with, even you made changes I relating to the other file. Now I know that this changes, ned their own 'personal sync (to the 'other' file). it works fine here in the test which I will mail to you. later I will check in the larger projects (where 'wrap has been set since start) thanks for your help P